tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23067963.post114248157611428111..comments2023-10-31T08:17:07.012-05:00Comments on Aunty Belle's Back Porch ( Serious Talk ): C'mon in the back door, SugarAunty Bellehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13868780211706866610noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23067963.post-1142908271721987122006-03-20T20:31:00.000-06:002006-03-20T20:31:00.000-06:00Ardlair, honey, hope you doan mind, but I think I'...Ardlair, <BR/>honey, hope you doan mind, but I think I'd better move this discussion to it's own page. So look for the continuing discussion under the title of "Atheists explain all"<BR/><BR/> Did'ja get'cha boulders down to pebbles yet?Aunty Bellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13868780211706866610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23067963.post-1142908064222461992006-03-20T20:27:00.000-06:002006-03-20T20:27:00.000-06:00Hey BB--I see you survived Larry--Whew!! We'un hav...Hey BB--I see you survived Larry--Whew!! We'un have plent yof hurricnes here abouts and I knows how it can be....Aunty Bellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13868780211706866610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23067963.post-1142846010112112932006-03-20T03:13:00.000-06:002006-03-20T03:13:00.000-06:00I don't consider myself an athiest, cause I don't ...I don't consider myself an athiest, cause I don't believe in 'nothing' - I don't believe in God, but I do believe in the power of the universe & nature. I believe in Karma - which every religion includes - do as you would be done by - or be done by as you did; do unto others etc.....<BR/><BR/>I have seen this work in my life. <BR/><BR/>I believe in wonder and the moment.<BR/><BR/>Guess I'm good company then :-)Bluehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07537206000218742156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23067963.post-1142813706778151102006-03-19T18:15:00.000-06:002006-03-19T18:15:00.000-06:00Ardlair, hey Darlin'! Really proud to have you sit...Ardlair, hey Darlin'! <BR/><BR/>Really proud to have you sit a spell. And so pleased youse a feelin' better.<BR/><BR/>Your comment was :<BR/><BR/>"I think you should have a stab at the answer to your own question first Aunty Belle, and that will help us quickly on our way. Cos what I think you are really asking is what the meaning of life is, the purpose of it all, if there ain't no god."<BR/><BR/>.........Oh gracious, no, kinsman, I'm not askin' what the meaning of life is. I think I got aholt a' that. Good enough fer an ole' biddy anyhow --nope, that warn't my question to you.<BR/><BR/> My question to you is, why is there somethin' instead of nothin'? <BR/><BR/>This is a scientific question as well as existential. <BR/><BR/>I am a curious soul, and jes' needin' insight into how an atheist arranges his mind when he is a lookin' at the stars, feeling the breath o' that lovely loch across one's brow, contemplatin' the wonder of the intricate abundance o'r all this earth. <BR/><BR/>Then you said, "And I guess your thinking that the existence of a god justifies it all."<BR/><BR/>No,puddin' --how funny--thas' not a good guess, not it a'tall. The existence of God did not necessitate the rest of the cosmos. God sure doan need no things, no moon for a footstool, no planets to for planetary bowling....no *need* for there to be anything at all. All that exists is from the sheer exuberance of love, a creative love, a joyful creatin' jes' for the love of it. <BR/><BR/>And all that exists doan need no justifying, it is pure gift-but it do require an intelligent response. Thas' the question for yer...<BR/><BR/>Naturally my mind arranges it in reference to God--but how does your mind give context to what exists?<BR/><BR/>--How's it that you frame all this? What context do you give it? What do an atheist say as to *Why* is there something at all, rather than a vast comsic nothingness? And what's it for?<BR/><BR/>I jes' need a little hep getting a handle on how an atheist arranges in his mind the reception of all that exists.<BR/><BR/>Now, here honey, put another cushion behind your back and get comfortable. We'uns is gonna have a fine time together. I like yore spirit.Aunty Bellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13868780211706866610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23067963.post-1142774827267233602006-03-19T07:27:00.000-06:002006-03-19T07:27:00.000-06:00Hey Ardlair!! Honey, getcha self on up here on thi...Hey Ardlair!! Honey, getcha self on up here on this back poa-rch, tacketty boots an' all. <BR/><BR/>Youse weary? Needdin' a jawbonin'? Well, let's us get at it! THere's some mint julups in the pitcher over theah (rest of ya'll get a sip too).<BR/><BR/>OK, lemme see. For starts, you list some of the glories you observe around you--marvelous, ain't they? <BR/><BR/>This is where atheism jes' plumb confounds me--why is all this beauty heah? Why is it that there's somethin' rather than nothin'?<BR/><BR/>When you sets me straight on that, then mebbe I can speak to your version of atheism. I'm anxious to understand this point.Aunty Bellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13868780211706866610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23067963.post-1142736430749835812006-03-18T20:47:00.000-06:002006-03-18T20:47:00.000-06:00Gee ardlair - I think I did the quiz wrong :-)That...Gee ardlair - I think I did the quiz wrong :-)<BR/><BR/>Thats the first time an online quiz has been unable to categorise me.Bluehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07537206000218742156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23067963.post-1142713108828989132006-03-18T14:18:00.000-06:002006-03-18T14:18:00.000-06:00Howdy Bluebolt, I hear you on this tragic matter o...Howdy Bluebolt, <BR/>I hear you on this tragic matter of abortion, choice and women...I do hear you, sweet pet. <BR/><BR/>In fact, one of mah chief aggravations with pro-life activists is that they doan make clear that they's also interested in the woman, not only the baby.<BR/><BR/>But I must jes' say a few quick thangs more--first, mah topic above was about full information, not moral choices, but *medical* choices. <BR/><BR/>Now, the causation/association response is innteresting, but the science indicates causation, though the precise process is not understood yet.<BR/><BR/>(Note to Ardlair, who said: "So I'd stick to trying to argue it down on purer, moral grounds..........or have you acknowledged defeat on those?" No, no, puddin, if you wanna go thata way, jes' pipe up and we can begin--you load the first round on the moral points and I'll match'cha!)<BR/><BR/>Bluebolt, in your own case of late term miscarriage (I am so sorry!) it is not the same as induced abortion. Your body knew weeks before that thangs weren't progressing right and the shut down of hormones began--not completed hence your lactation, but still the body was prepared far more than with an abortion. (Also, most studies indicate that the strongest breast cancer correlation is when the indued abortion is before there is at least one normal full term delivery)<BR/><BR/>And the other thang is that it ain't the banner of patriarchy that defends babies and pregnancy--it is the opposite: a twisted version of patriarchy that waves abortion at the poor woman--using her body then discardin' the natural fertility of her body by violent means --with no regard for what it does to her health or emotions.<BR/><BR/>Abortion serves irresponsible men far more than it gives a woman proof of her "capable" ness.<BR/><BR/>I'm gettin' to love you folks here in blogland. I doan mean to be ornery on this point so please lemme make real, real sure ya'll know that I ain't judging, blaming or finger pointin' at anybody a'tall. <BR/><BR/>No siree, I ain't even thinkin' thataway. I have too many loved ones who have made that decison and wisht that they had known they didn't have to. I'm jes' saying that dogs is treated better--that's the verifiable truth. <BR/><BR/>Did you know vet'nary clinics are inspected for cleanliness more often than "women's clinics"? And I s'pose you heard that two more American girls died of R-U 486 this week? <BR/><BR/>You see, no one wants to turn in an abortionist, so he/she gets away with the worst travesty--poor sanitation, poor technique (know how many perforated uteruses go unreported at many clinics until finally a woman bleeds to death and the place is reported?).<BR/><BR/>If we'uns gonna have the "right" to abortion, let's at least make it clean and careful under extreme penalty. <BR/><BR/>'Course, as I have said someplace else, cain't we, as a culture, try to move beyond "rights" to the higher order of love? We talk of making room for the immigrant, why not the baby?<BR/><BR/>Poor ole' Aunty Belle is jes' old fashioned enough to think that sex is for love, not entertainment. And if it is for love, then love says, this baby is you and me, and we will find a way to make a place for it. <BR/><BR/>Gracious, that is a novel idea in modern speak, I know. Sorry that I sound so much like a Model T. <BR/><BR/>What ya'll goin' to do with me?? Jes' put me up on a shelf as an amusin' antique.Aunty Bellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13868780211706866610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23067963.post-1142671028772701062006-03-18T02:37:00.000-06:002006-03-18T02:37:00.000-06:00Hey Aunty Belle,The question that is not answered ...Hey Aunty Belle,<BR/><BR/>The question that is not answered in all the information you provided is how the body copes with a spontaneous abortion (miscarriage). I had a late ish miscarriage (14.5wks) & had to have drugs to dry up my milk.<BR/><BR/>According to the info you have here, that puts me at the same increased risk of breast cancer as someone who had an abortion by choice.<BR/><BR/>As Ardlair said - its association rather than causation.<BR/><BR/>I think there is a terminology problem tho' with pro-life vs pro-choice. I don't believe anyone is anti-life. No woman wants to be in the position where she has to terminate a pregnancy for any reason. But ultimately, it is her choice and I believe that it is time we stepped out from a patriarchal banner which dictates to women on the basis that they are not *capable* of making the best financial, emotional, physical & spiritual decisions for themselves & their bodies. Dictating that a child must be born regardless of the potential damage to all areas of a woman's life is heinous & dispicable.Bluehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07537206000218742156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23067963.post-1142638070560046932006-03-17T17:27:00.000-06:002006-03-17T17:27:00.000-06:00WHoo EEE! Looky whose been heah--welcome clansman....WHoo EEE! Looky whose been heah--welcome clansman. Jes'delighted to have you come by.<BR/><BR/>Tsk tsk...hemorrhoids is one vexation I ain't never had to deal with, mercy be thanked.<BR/><BR/>As to the abortion and breast cancer link---the link is rather strong Ardlair. <BR/><BR/>My point ain't about decision makin' as much as a woman havin' the full disclosure about the link afore she makes the decision. The bidness end of the abortion industry is mighty anxious to keep that info stuffed in a paper bag. Ole' Aunty here is jes' wantin' them to play fair--let the woman know what the full story is. <BR/><BR/>As for the moral argument about abortion--why that is a long slog--but I am up to it iffin' you want to get that one lined up after the atheism exchange. Fer shiore nuff, it won't be dull.<BR/><BR/>I left some of the moral discussion at BogsBlog a while back, iffin' you wanna take a look see--but for now, let's jes' note that it is a disservice to women sold to them as a service and a "right." No woman is ever OK afterwards. It messes with her hormones and her psyche. it is an abuse of woman.<BR/><BR/>* * *<BR/><BR/>COntessa!! Hey baby girl. I was an surprise too!! Lot's of us are. It means heaven wanted us out here gettin' to know each other.<BR/><BR/> Sorry about your gym friend--you raise an awfully good question, chile: "Why does life need to be altered?" <BR/><BR/>Naturally I'd like to hear your thoughts on that. <BR/><BR/>Well, it has been a glorius day--you should see the flowers! Maybe I'll upload some photos of the bloomin' pretty thangs. <BR/><BR/>I am so proud of myself for gettin' some pictures up on this here blog...had to get a young pup to show me the way--Lawdy, ain't it wonder?Aunty Bellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13868780211706866610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23067963.post-1142622398815152982006-03-17T13:06:00.000-06:002006-03-17T13:06:00.000-06:00I forget the name of the correlation that marks tw...I forget the name of the correlation that marks two unrelated items as linked. Drat, I AM a bad student.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, I wanted to say Bell that the cancer link looks plausable but I have not read up on it. I would make sense though. Common sense is critical in this world.<BR/><BR/>Abstinence is the only real solution and if that were the case, NOBODY would ever get born.<BR/><BR/>I was a ....surprise.....<BR/>but I popped out anyway.<BR/><BR/>Sometimes though, the mother knows that the child will have a hard life, I think that is where the choice comes in.<BR/><BR/>In high school, in Texas, I knew a girl who had had 7 abortions.<BR/>She was a 16 year old freshman and the school slut.<BR/>She was my friend in gym class.<BR/>I hated gym class. So did she.<BR/><BR/>She had low self esteem and was also high all the time. I think drugs and impaired jugement and abortion are all linked.<BR/><BR/>But why do people become addicts? That is the real question. Why is life needing to be altered?<BR/><BR/>But anyway, a 16 year old with 7 abortions under her belt in the late 80's in not acceptable.<BR/><BR/>It was her method of birth control.<BR/>It made me sad.<BR/><BR/>Bye Bell, thnx for the brownie(s)Infinitesimalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02130512550173905348noreply@blogger.com