2.13.2007

Can A Christian Support War?

Some folks wonder iffin' it were possible ter be a Christian
and still favor war or aggression against a defined evil such as Islamic jihadists...and in these here pages we done had some exchanges on the matter.

Of course, the answer is YES, Christians,
and nations who hold themselves ter be Christian in the most basic of terms, absolutely have an obligation to use force against them folks or nations that is hell bent on causing genocide,terror and mayhem against innocent peoples.


But the challenge is usually from folks on the liberal side of the aisle who ain't real fond of anything in the bible--unless they think it can be used against a conservative position. AN' thas the trouble--they think the bible says no war, no aggression, cause what they remember is "turn the other cheek".

Well, now, chillen's we does have ter turn the other cheek rather than give in ter a fight that is petty--a crude fella insults ya? Turn the other cheek. Brother-in-law stiffs ya' fer the dinner tab, turn the other cheek by paying the bill without makin' a big deal (but doan go out wif' him again lessen he has his wallet). In other words, try to keep peace even when the other person is rude, wrong, unfair etc. Cupiditas means personal interest, personal reference. Doan start no scuffle over small matters of cupiditas.

This doan apply ter deliberate attempts to destroy your city or nation, or your life. How do we know?


Romans 13:4: “For [the ruler] is God’s minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain. He is God’s minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him that does evil.” Mebbe this is easy ter understand when we think of Allies and Hitler.

Guess we can see that usin' armed force is justified in some cases. We need ter note, though, that it is limited to conditions fer the public good.

Sometimes what sticks in the craw of the liberals is that they wanna show how flawed the Allies is--as if whatever flaws one side has is an ipso facto obstacle to launching a fight against any other flawed regime or dictator.

But thas' jes' silly. Imagine a playground bully that beats the stuffin' outa every kid on the block. When a brave young'un finally stands up to the bully and tells her that he's a gonna bloody her nose iffin' she touches 'ary a hair on another head, none of us is disqualifying the fella on account of him being in detention at school fer tardiness this week.

His tardiness doan equal her bullying--there is a thang called proportionality.

In Christian terms we's all--yep, ALL--imperfect, all sinners, all short of what God meant us to be. But not equally so. Some is jes' plain tryin' harder, despite a few slip-ups. Others ain't tryin', and in fact is tryin' not ter try! To be evil, in truth. When we lay it out , proportion makes a big difference. Some is a little bit bad, and sad about it, some is bad in a big, big way--on purpose.

So, see? Ain't no need to claim a small flaw is equal to a big flaw--that is an unjust claim. If we waited til we's perfect, nuthin' would ever be done.

Nope--a nation doan have ter be perfect to wage a just war against a bully. Bellum (Aggression, armed force) is justified when it is for broad humanitarian purposes. (I ain't named Aunty Belle --antebellum--fer nuthin' ya know?). When a sovereign deems his nation/ community is under attack and must be defended--even "taking the war to the aggressor" --this is a just cause for the benefit of the whole.

St. Augustine laid it out fer us: “We do not seek peace in order to be at war, but we go to war that we may have peace.”




6 comments:

Anonymous said...

Sic 'em, Lady.

Anonymous said...

Aunty,

No need to worry about the Christian response. The secular powers are sucking in the Jihadi bucks:

"London is the leading Islamic banking center in the West. Islamist clerics with terrorist connections and a mission to Islamize Europe are infiltrating the United Kingdom through its banking system, and British officials are encouraging them. HSBC, Lloyds TSB, and Citigroup have opened Islamic banking units and branches throughout England. In 2005 the first stand-alone British Islamic bank, Islamic Bank of Britain, opened its doors. Middle Eastern Islamic banks have also set up shop in the UK."
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/1898

Christians fight a losing battle.

NEO

Ronald Barbour said...

Aunty,

Of course Christians can support a just war and take part in it!

Also, Christians may kill a tyrant, if no recourse to justice is available.

The would-be assassin of Adolf Hitler on July 20, 1944 was a devout Catholic army officer.

BTW, have you seen this local story?

FBI Responsible For 2006 Riot In Orlando

Stogie said...

If Christians won't fight, there won't be any more Christians. Much of the Islamic world was at one time Christian. Tens of millions of them were killed by Muslim invasion and conquest.

Aunty Belle said...

Howdy boys!! Ya'll is right, Ronbo and Stogie--iffin' no Christians fight back Islam,l the world will be Islamic--and they know it too.

A look at the map will show that islam has conquered mostly Christian lands.....say what you will, in the last analysis, it is a spiritual battle.

Hey anon! THanky fer the London Bank article.

I'se still readin' Paul Fergosi's JIHAD--ya'll git a copy--important readin'.

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