“Freedom is not only a gift, but also a summons to personal responsibility. Americans know this from experience — almost every town in this country has its monuments honoring those who sacrificed their lives in defense of freedom, both at home and abroad.”
---Benedict XVI on White House Lawn
Hmmn...not exactly a pacifist statement.
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Interesting decline in comments since IL PAPA became the focus of your scriptures.
Can't we go back to some more staple fare?
Maybe something about abortion or immigration or nuking Mecca?
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Yo, Threnody, yo is a a broken record. Get a new poem, bro.
Bit like this broken record Bro?
Oh, say, can you see, by the dawn's early light,
What so proudly we hail'd at the twilight's last gleaming?
Whose broad stripes and bright stars, thro' the perilous fight,
O'er the ramparts we watch'd, were so gallantly streaming?
And the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof thro' the night that our flag was still there.
O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?
On the shore dimly seen thro' the mists of the deep,
Where the foe's haughty host in dread silence reposes,
What is that which the breeze, o'er the towering steep,
As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?
Now it catches the gleam of the morning's first beam,
In full glory reflected, now shines on the stream:
'T is the star-spangled banner: O, long may it wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
Don't hear you wheedlin" bout that one!
Bro?
Somehow, I doubt it!!!
Okay all ya'll Anons...use names of tags or smoethin' so we know whose replyin' to which comment.
And, fer pete's sake, deal with the QUOTE ON THE POST.
it is dealing with the topic of the post. Self righteousness.
Auntie,
that Threnody is a Twinkie eater.
New topic requested. Banning of the dweeb who's posted the same "poem" 9x regardless of topic requested.
I don't care for Ratfinger and don't understand the post's point. Did someone accuse him of being a pacifist and you're refuting that?
Hey Anon, er, that last Anon. Yep, Threnody is a Twinkie chomper. Kool-aid too.
Hey Troll! New topic en route...but yes, the point of THIS topic is to show that the Pope is NOT a pacifist, did NOT "shake his finer at the president" over Iraq.
The Pope called Americans to recall their founding documents--to recall that we are a nations "Under God" and we acknowledge that our rights and prosperity are not forever, but require our DILIGENT care. Even war on occasion.
War is not de facto immoral. War is often the better of two nightmares.
But stay tuned--new topic coming this weekend.
'kay, I'll direct my comment solely to the post: I agree with the Pope's quote. War is not immoral when it's an action of self-defense, to uphold and protect our freedoms here at home.
In which case, I was more than happy to see us enter Afghanistan after 9/11 to kick some ass. But Iraq? Not so much.
hey Moi! Well now, I was not remining Moi to stick to the post--only that Anon who NEVER has a response to the post topic, only to the people who comment.
But as fer yer point--youse on the $$ war is not always immoral--even Gandhi said that a man who was not prepared to defend his family was not a man.
Ahhhh, I see. I guess some of the leftists thought the Pope would use his visit to chastise America again. And he wisely did not.
He's a very shrewd guy and they were foolish to predict he'd do anything like that while our guest.
War certainly isn't immoral in and of itself. I (mildly) opposed the Iraq War primarily because:
1) The Tony Blair Colin Powell Lib-War-And-Nation-Building plan was obtuse.
2) It would benefit the traitor-democrat-party-of-filth politically at home.
Heh heh...looky, Troll-Sugar Pie, thang is that the Pope is a BIG FAN of America. That doan mean we ain;'t got some warts...
but Bennedict XVI sees that we have religious freedom and courage,and WE ADDRESS OUR ISSUES right out loud in public. Thas' a good thang. He praised USA for its pro-life work, for its generosity to the poor nations of the world, and for our willingness to defend good causes when we could stay home and count our weekend options fer fun and games.
To TWINKIE EATER
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
(John Stuart Mill)
Aunty Belle,
Being a BIG fan is a relative thing. He's not even a LITTLE fan of American Protestant Missionaries. And he's a MUCH bigger fan of Germany and France.
Let's look at the numbers.
Germany: 12 million baptized Catholics. 400 of them attend church regulary. 4 of them contribute cash.
France: 40 million baptized Catholics. 3 of whom attend church regularly. ZERO contribute cash.
USA: 60 million Catholics. 20 million attend church regularly. 25 million contribute TONS of cash.
Seems to me he could be a BIGGER fan of the Country that keeps his Church out of bankruptcy.
Troll-Man,
I'se hearin' ya' ...
On the part about failing faith in Germany and France youse right, and Benedict has addressed that rather pointedly. The Pope has had tough love comments fer them countrymen of his--
His message to Western world is the same in all the Western countries--secularism is the enemy. That enemy is rather muscular in Europe.
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